13 Bailey and Hastings, 2004, p. 92 Govan and Fisher, former NBA player and current head coach for the Los Angeles Sparks, got married on Saturday at Cielo Farms in Malibu, California. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. . The barbers shop was called "Knop & Joyce" and was at 26 Langlands Road, it opened in 1929 and Harry Knop lived in the next close at 34 Langlands Road. There was no point in carrying out any raids because the dealers could quickly escape and dispose of their drugs. Napier's Shipyard in Govan was later acquired by William Beardmore and Company in 1876 and incorporated into William Beardmore and Company in around 1900. I remember that when he told me that he had studied at university and that what he was now doing was his job I laughed at his education and his job. Next thing, I found myself lying on the ground. One summer, I walked to the steamie and managed to get some photos of it. That suggested that the suspect was taking the van south to Manchester or Liverpool to pick up much larger drug consignments. or. George and Mary Breslin's, 2 boys (Raymond and Michael), William & Margaret Gallagher's boy and girl (Charles and Maureen) and John & Annie Mc Culloch's 2 girls and 1 boy ( Elizabeth, Mary and John) which was us. It was a them and us attitude that persisted right up until the Wine Alley was demolished in the late 1990s. The Wine Alley is a boutique wine shop specializing in fine wines from the Pacific NW and Around the world! That is why this Reflection will critically examine the Moorepark experience (within the context of community planning) from before Darners time to the 1970s and the present, where it will question if there have been any real changes in attitudes between then and today or worse, are the same mistakes being repeated, and is proven good work being ignored? Did the papers for Maggie Slimmins and the milk for the coop this paid for my first real bike from Andy McNeil's, before that I had a clenny model. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. Claire Fitzpatrick - I wonder if your Mary is one of our family? We always used to stop at your house on the way home from St. Anthony`s school, for a blether. Only a few years into it, faults like dampness had begun to appear in the tower blocks of the Laurieston/ Gorbals project, which rapidly turned into a disaster area. Naturally the slum dwellers of Govan, who though it their right to have most of the new house in their own locality, were angry and outraged at their expectations being ignored by the authorities. I went to Greenfield then Govan High left school in 1975 and worked in Govan shipyard canteen my mates wee Calum McLean, Brian Lavoury, Billy Cameron, Tam Reid, Jim Reynolds and Stephen Gourley now living in England. Curtis Govan, 23, was convicted in July of rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, simple assault, resisting arrest,. I went to Broomloan Rd nursery then the school. Then the area - close to Rangers home at Ibrox - had a reputation for deprivation and poverty having been built in the 1930s to relieve overcrowding in the Gorbals. Email: enquiries@gblink.org.uk , www.gblink.org.uk Once the area had gained a bad reputation (through no fault of its own), this was picked up by Govans local newspaper, The Govan Press, who furthered the image in a relentlessly aggressive campaign against the inhabitants until even the authorities began to believe it too. He lived on Govan Road. Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. I went undercover on the 'Wine Alley' to tackle drug problem No1seems2care. I used to visit your Mum and Dad. At the time this article was written in the local Southside paper, prices for the projected apartments were going up dramatically among the speculators.14 A few hundred yards east of this development, one-bedroom apartments at the newly built QE3 (Clydeside Festival Park) in Govan were selling for 129,995 while two-bedrooms at the same place will cost you 199,995. Bishop Leslie in his Scotia Descriptio of 1578 says it got its name from the excellence of its ale (God-win), whereas Chalmers in his Caledonia says it is derived from Scottish Gaelic, Gamhan (a ditch). In June 2004 the Scottish Parliaments Public Petition Committee heard presentations from Govan Community Council about the failure of local regeneration policies in housing, poverty and unemployment. We offer great benefits for wine merchants, hotels and restaurants offering your wines. Lots of other good memories but also remember the terrible fires which took place. By the 1860s, the village needed a higher order of administration and it was made a burgh in 1864, under the General Police (Scotland) Act 1862. Although we were all poor, I knew that I could go to any door, ask for a piece, and get it. Canmore ID 315779. I remember the Neptune Street bakery was always flooded and full of cats but people would still queue up outside it. And Linda Paterson, I knew your dad Geordie Paterson, and I think he had a brother Willie. Does anyone remember Reid the baker who was in Neptune Street around about the 1950s? It was absolutely awesome growing up in Govan, lots of shops, such as; Galbraiths, Dands Bobby's, David's butchers, BrotherSoft paper shop, modern book shop, and Woolworths, we had a great wee doctors surgery on Langlands Road, Peacocks bakery, Nicholls store and Amey's cafe. Driscoll, Stephen, "Govan, an early medieval royal centre", p. 79. It was later in 1974 that she began her Stairhead Seminars in the so-called "Wine Alley" area of Govan which led, in 1976, to the Govan Project. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council \"modernised\" it and tried to reintroduce the original name Moorepark but after 40 years of being the Wine Alley most people forgot about or even knew that the Wine Ally was originally called Moorepark and did not approve of the name Moorepark and continued to call it Wine Alley. Poor Man, he said to my Mother, "the way she's trying to kick me I think her hips are fine". Little did we no that years later I would be living above that very shop. Glasgow Tower - Glasgow - WorldPlaces Glasgow, Govan, Moorepark Housing Estate | Canmore A Gannett Company. who until March 2014 played at Tinto Park (Drumoyne) then moved to the adjacent New Tinto Park. We stayed next door to the Mellon's in 31 Rathlin Street for a short time, I was friendly with your brother Paul. We left Govan when I was two, then lived for five years in Markinch before moving on to Kelty, Cowdenbeath, Armadale, and Rushden down in England. Sometimes on a Sunday we would go over to Kelvingrove and (if memory serves me) run around the suits of armour until we were thrown out of the Art Galleries. Gran was Annie Murphy but her dad died when she was 4 and her mother remarried John Johnston and went on to have a huge number of children - and as we research the family, we keep finding more. 7 Markus, 1993, p. 163 I used to go to Jack's Bakers on a Saturday morning for a dozen rolls and half a dozen teabread and I still got change from a half a crown (12.5 pence), happy days! I lived across from Fairfield shipyard and I saw ship being launched when l was about four, I saw Harry Lauder embark from a ship and he was the first person who told me I was a bonnie wee lass. Drumoyne primary it was, a year after my big brother Robert started (about 53) then on to Govan High School, that was the one which caught fire when I was due to sit my O levels (no excuses). 10 Bailey and Hastings, 2004, p. 91 You Wine Alley Govan Team were shite begs. Laurel Brook. Hullo! On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. I loved going to the Steamie with my Mum and her friends. 178 9 shares Like Most relevant Denise Mcdonald Many happy memories there in the late 80s and early 90s . Here in the alley, you will find tasting rooms such as Truth Teller Winery, Baer Winery, Ancestry Cellars, Adam's Bench and the office of Woodinville Wine Country. Home - Wineally Govan is home to the Scottish Junior football team Benburb F.C. Got in with the wrong crowd in Wine Alley,Govan, Glasgow,(Rab C Nesbitt Country) usual stuff to start with theft,housebreakings(Burglary to those from England), theft of and from motor vehicles, local gang wars etc, then got into some serious crime such as armed robbery, Gun running between Stranraer to Belfast, serious assaults(GBH), . As a result, it proved very simple for them to track the gang movements on a day-to-day basis. 1 Damer, 1989, (passim), Life in theWine Alley Hi there, just wondering if anyone has any info or stories on the Slaters, Mckechnies or Hutchisons, hope to hear back. Many members of the family were married at St Anthonys Chapel. My gran lived upstairs at 12 Water row. I recall going to the Co-op hypermarket on a Saturday morning for messages. I went to Hills Trust primary and can remember having to sit my 11 plus exam and passed by the skin of my teeth (lots of mental arithmetic). In this way they dispelled the idea of the workers being "work-shy" and also wanted to illustrate the long-term viability of the yards. Drug and alcohol abuse was a widespread problem and unemployment stood at 30% - three times the national average. Community organisation. Anyone remember the prego cafe and who ran it? Reading the posts recognised a few names. Been looking at the old pictures of Govan and wondered if anyone remembers my father's Chemist/Optician shop at Govan Cross near Helen St, 830 Govan Road. ZinAlley Winery - California Winery Advisor 25 bus to the Gladstone Gospel Hall at the corner of Golspie St and Logie St. 110m Govan Road Campus . My parents lived at 49 Nethan Street and I was born at the Southern General in 1939. In the cace of Easterhouse it was the various interested parties of the Eastethoude Community Group who decided to get the authorities to tske notice of their plight by directly intervening their own affairs. My father was called up at the beginning of the War and my mother died when he was in Europe, I went to live with my grandparents on Wee Logie Street, I was 2years old and spent the rest of my childhood there until 1956 when I came to Canada with my grandmother to live with my uncle (my mum's young brother). On 13 July 1577, the teinds of Govan were granted to the University of Glasgow, and the Principal of the University ex officio was appointed minister of the parish. First of all, they invited local and international designers to attend a three day team design effort to come up with imaginative projects that would redress the problems they had in their 3-storey, concrete block houses.7, The group then lobbied the City Council, the Scottish Office and finally Westminster, until they were eventually given the go-ahead to revamp one of the old blocks of 6 houses into model they desired. My Mother took me to the Southern and a giant black man came in. I can remember having to use the toilet on the landing using a massive key to open the door. 122m The Govan Shed . It has taken Govan many years to heal and the spare grounds and scars are all nearly gone. We stayed in Elphinstone Street but after a fire we had to move to my grans house at 62 Golspie Street at the corner of Langlands Road, it was known as McCormick's close he being the owner of a hardware store. Where abouts from Glasgow are you from? | Page 6 | TalkCeltic - The Nestled among the quaint streets [24], Despite these developments, there were numerous older buildings around Govan until quite recently, most notably the terraces and tenements situated around Govan Road. When I got married I moved to Arden, I now live in Clarkston in the South of Glasgow. sau. So, at the age of 46 I started three years of studies with projects that involved Govan Initiative and Glasgow University until I was finally accepted as a full-time student at Glasgow. Glasgow Crime Stories: The drug nightmare of Wine Alley (Image: Newsquest) Govan covers a huge part of Glasgow's Southside and is famous the world over for its ship building and football team. Glasgow undercover cop reveals alter-ego life in 80s drug gang They also discovered in the early days that one gang member was driving about in hired cars. Will they be full participants at setting the agenda for their locals or are these just pie crust promises?11 Will the same old story of the past three decades resurface where members of local communities are merely informed or consulted about changes in which they have no say?12 Perhaps one of the worst errors that the new regeneration policy is now making is that of ignoring the potential of local housing organisations as important instruments for inclusion and social capital, and their spill over effects of wider social and economic developments and issues. Govan (/ v n / GUV-n; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland.It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick.Historically it was 2 Knowing a house which was empty he pre-emptively sought approval from the council to use it as part of the operation. My maternal grandfather was a master brass moulder in the shipyards. In 1841, Robert Napier began iron shipbuilding in Govan, and in 1843 produced its first ship, the Vanguard. They were both always on a mission to land a. Memories of our workers are Nancy, Margret-Anne and various others, oh and not forgetting Speedy. My father, Alex Grant and brother Davie lived one up at 129 Elderpark Street. Redevelopment was never completed and the combined effects of poor building specifications, and carelessness in the design of the surrounding spaces were becoming embarrassingly apparent. Burnside also appeared to take sadistic pleasure in watching them scrabbling about on the ground looking for their hit. Gloria Govan and Derek Fisher are Married! | Lipstick Alley In 1975 the sociologist Sean Damer went to live for six months in Britains most notorious housing scheme, Moorepark, or as it was known to all The Wine Alley of Govan in Glasgow. My Aunt and Uncle Kathleen and Tommy Blacker lived in 6 Rathlin Street, Govan. When we moved to Nitshill in 1060, I realised how much I had loved Govan. Although the scheme had a bad reputation for crime, drinking and violence, as a child I never felt unsafe or deprived in any way and knew only kindness from my family, friends, relatives and neighbours. For about a decade that shop stood empty and it broke my heart. It arrived at a house in Liverpool and then left a short time later to head back to Glasgow, arriving about midnight. Yes Danny, Hamilton Street was renamed to Nethan Street between 1931 and 1932. In Canada, I joined the Royal Canadian Air Force, and served 37 years before retiring. "It's within the margin of error, Joanna, let's be clear about that" He and his pals jumped out and I ran back up three stories screaming. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's You have to take the responsibility for some of that.''. Classification Housing Estate (Modern) Alternative Name (s) Moorpark Housing Estate; 'wine Alley'. Govan (/vn/ GUV-n; Cumbric? I then went to Govan High, teachers I remember and not with any fondness are Jockey Rayburn (Maths) Duncan (English) and Miss Downny (Maths) who was a lovely teacher, I had two brother George and Stuart who also went to the same primary and also went to Govan High. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council "modernised" it and tried to reintroduce the original n. Photos: Splash News. Bookworm.mamatime on Twitter Used go there for coffee and listen to juke box. Following the five convictions, the man who led the investigation, detective superintendent Joe Jackson, received several letters from grateful Wine Alley residents. Conecteaz-te. wine alley govan - dialectic.solutions 81 Albums for you to enjoy : - Sunny Govan Memories | Facebook Around 1963 we moved to Arden where I went St Louise Primary School. dealing, drug abuse, and money lending had flourished in a big way since 1975, which only added to the schemes wretchedness. I went to Harmony Row school then Hills Trust school, then to Govan High school. As I recall they sold very trendy tops marketed as Trendy. I am looking for the name of a barbers shop that was on Langlands Road at Helen street end. Media/news company. Like Pauline I also went to St. Margaret's and I also recall Susan's Shop. Click on the Bus route to see step by step directions with maps, line arrival times and updated time schedules. Not Now. The most famous of these housing estates is Moorepark, sometimes referred to jocularly as "The Wine Alley"[22] - this area was named by The Independent newspaper in April 1994 as one of the worst areas in Britain, with drug abuse being a widespread problem and unemployment standing at nearly 30% (up to three times the national average at the time). ), the street was a dead end because a school had burnt down. Govan Memories | Reminiscences Furthermore, although the new regeneration programme mentions housing quality and physical improvements as valid points in deprived locals, they are still regarded as unessential to regeneration. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can [12], There is an oddity whereby part of eighteenth-century parish of Govan (which was in Lanarkshire) is counted as being within Renfrewshire. Just answering Margaret Fletcher's post below. Great times. Many memories but top must be winning Whitefield Cup with Under 13s against Lourdes in 1962 by 7-6. My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. This is a 12th-century Latin source, but one believed to be based on much earlier materials; it records a place near Dumbarton Rock named Ouania. However, as little seems to have changed in the last 30 years does this mean that at last, local communities are to be involved in making decisions about their futures? In the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, textile mills and coal mining were important; in the early-nineteenth century, shipbuilding emerged as Govan's principal industry. Also, among the plans for Govans hub was a programme to make Govans main shopping area more attractive such as joining Govans Market, Shopping Centre, Underground and bus depot together under the one roof. During fortnight surveillance in February 1989, they discovered that the same gang member had hired his biggest car yet. I agreed and the result is the Report, which you now have today which is meant for the October 17th World Poverty Day. In 1136, when Glasgow Cathedral was formally consecrated, King David I (112453) gave to the See the lands of Partick and also of the church at Govan (on opposite sides of the River Clyde), which became a prebend of Glasgow. I was the smallest and skinniest one there, there were about 10 of us up on the dyke, they're all shouting at me, so I shouts I'm just gettting ready. Obituary: Sister Doreen Grant, pioneering - HeraldScotland The authorities plan for the scheme started going wrong when they decided (without consulting the locals who lived in Govan) to house it mainly with outsiders or people who came from areas other than Govan. Brian McQuade, Reflection on Housing James and Catherine moved to Govan from Ireland and lived on Victoria (Neptune) Street and Langlands Road. The area was originally a country estate which contained a mansion house, Moore Park, which was built in the early 19th century for the Hagart family, to plans prepared by the architect David Hamilton. The main point of the Presentation was that, in an area which had lost 80% of its population (between 1951 and 2001), the re-zoning of demolished housing areas for warehousing and offices meant that there was less chance of people coming back into the area to live, as houses were needed in these areas and not anonymous commercial barns and offices. [21], The area has had a reputation for deprivation and poverty, partly due to the construction of housing estates in the 1930s to relieve the overcrowded slum district of The Gorbals, Glasgow. There existed a hospital in the area, and as quasi-religious foundations were not taxed, it had never been assigned to a sheriffdom. who traditionally incorporate the red and black civic colours in the socks of their kit;[43] their Ibrox Stadium has a stand named for Govan (the closest to the heart of the burgh), although officially this was re-named after their former player Sandy Jardine in 2014.[44]. [34], Alexander Stephen and Sons also established a shipyard in nearby Linthouse in 1870. Pipe Band. My cousin disappeared, the policeman went into the steamie and came out with a bucket of soapy water and a cloth to wipe it off. The county added to the description of these lands, the phrase: "but now by annexation in the County of Renfrew. sau. Three times during my young life I was sent away to residential schools for being undernourished while just before my 14th birthday I was put away in an approved school (in 1963) for a large number of burglaries. People were in tears when that shop closed and I'm really delighted that I played a small walk-on part in a Govan institution! In 1855, an elaborately carved sandstone sarcophagus was found during digging in the churchyard. Wine Alley Govan Glasgow | Visit A Winery Mum married and moved to Whiteinch as a child and I remember going across on the ferry to Govan, Anyone recall my mum? There, two local cops came up with the idea of using several of the houses to keep a 24-hour watch on the gang. Their children's names were John, Michael, Christopher, Bridget and Edward. Went to Drumoyne primary then Govan High. [5][6] Along with being physically hemmed in by factories and a railway branch line, and issues which were shared by other 'rehousing' developments of the time - namely low-quality building materials, few amenities and socio-economic difficulties associated with the demise of local industries (particularly shipbuilding in the case of Govan) - this label gave Moorepark a stigma as one of the city's most notorious 'schemes'.[7][8]. Young Young Winey (Govan) (G51) (Moorpark) 'Republican Wine Alley' . Memory says it was painted red but I might be wrong. I think he lived in Partick and had 2 little girls. Related Pages. Wine Alley, the newest wine tasting experience to open at Woodin Creek Village in Woodinville, WA, debuted with a ribbon cutting ceremony and grand opening event on February 18, 2022. Our children and grandchildren have been back many times as well. It was fantastic we even had a large grass area to play such a great childhood. Around this time heroin dealing was rife in Govan, particularly in an area called Moorepark, which was nicknamed Wine Alley. A big gang of kids would all go to the pictures on Saturday afternoon and one kid would pay to get in and then would go round to the fire escape door and open it and let the rest of the kids in for free. Our parents and our brother were also married there, and we were all Christened there as well. @AlanJParks" During the late 19th century, the population of Govan increased more than tenfold: from 9,000 in 1864 to 95,000 by 1907. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. Fall in Woodinville at After Hours Wine Walks in Woodin Creek Village! 'The. The Wine Alley - Wine Store in Renton I liked Daddy Boyd although I never had him as a teacher, he was in charge of the rowing club of which I enjoyed many an hour on the Clyde. While debating the (Greenwood) Housing Bill of 1930, the MP John Wheatley insisted that Britain would never get rid of its slum problem as long as it continued to set aside for a particular section of the community an inferior quality of housing The above extract comes from the enquiry that the sociologist Sean Damer wrote on the history of what was regarded as the most notorious slum-housing scheme in the Glasgow of the 1970s, Moorepark, or as it came to be known by Govanites and Glaswegians the Wine Alley of Govan. The man caught in the earlier operation with 50,000 of drugs in Helen Street was given six years. Run by a tall slim guy whose son was a racing cyclist ? At the end of his stay in the housing scheme Damer wrote a report on the area entitled From Moorepark to Wine Alley in what was a damning indictment of officialdom for its arrogant neglect of Moorepark and the people who lived there. SC 020951 Marconi Electronic Systems and its Marconi Marine unit were sold to British Aerospace in 1999 to form BAE Systems. I guess I drifted away from Govan for some time although I watched it contract as the shipyard industry faded and that was until my interest was aroused as the company I was working for took up new premisis near the Southern General as it was then. the 550 tenancies available, only 33 (16%) were identifiably from Govan itself. One day in the Summer, off we went to the Steamie, everybody went in, my Cousin and I stayed outside. My Mum was Godmother to your brother and I was at your wedding. Govan has had several local newspapers over the years such as the Govan Chronicle and Govan Press published by the Cossar Family (1851-1983) and by John Maclean (20062014) which also served the communities of Kinning Park, Cardonald, Penilee and Hillington, and the Govan Post (19831988) published by Cook, Paton & Co. of Paisley, now part of Dunfermline Press. I was born in Neptune Street, Govan in 1947, my father was Paddy Kelly and my mother Annie, my elder brother was Dick and my younger brother Brian. We went back to Govan until we could get passage, and I attended Bellahouston Academy. 4 Markus, 1993, p. 161 I was born in Govan in 1942 and lived in Elder Stree before moving to 15 Water Row above the bakers James Jack & Sons, my father worked there for 56 years. I now live in Brydekirk village but I'll never forget Govan. Govan borders the district of Ibrox, home to the Scottish football club Rangers F.C. The idea behind the hotel was to employ local people and to draw in money to the area. I would say about 90% of them never stayed in the winey they probably stayed kintra st, briton st, brighton st or clynder st etc but never the winealley. Nostalgic 3w Siobhan McCrone Joseph McCrone Going down the pyramids on a bread crate all good till ur fingers caught underneath 7 4w 1 Reply Wine Alley Govan Kids Southern General Hospital On the Clyde Govan Kvaerner/Fairfield Shipyards Govan Shipyards ( Front gate pics ) The Plaza/Vogue Govan Dry Docks Trams in Govan/ Goods Carriers Inside the Lyceum Bingo/Picture Hall Lyceum Projection Room Lyceum Foyer & Balcony Foyer Lyceum Cinema Balcony Inside The Lyceum Govan Baths Harhill 5 Smith, 1992, p. 4 Any way they started to ask us our schools and of course my mates answered Broomloan Rd, Bellahouston and Lorne St, but when it came my turn my truthful answer was Our Lady and St Margaret's Primary just up the road from here. However, the local paper still remained hostile, hypocritical, and unhelpful about the whole idea. Community service. ; Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. The first, Moorepark Grounds, was situated to the north of the mansion from the early 1900s and made way for the housing development;[12] the second (New Moore Park, opened in 1929) was to the south-west of the neighbourhood off Edmiston Drive[12] and had fallen into some disrepair before being replaced by a business park at the turn of the 21st century, with the club moving to new facilities at Shieldhall after some years of uncertainty.[13][14].
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