Range was 40 yards from gun muzzle to target frame. The Model 12 duck gun came to market at the all-time low point of duck populations in the United States. It won't be a collector but a shooter and should draw some attention. Keep in mind that all of these changes in stock design were running changes and thus some overlapping of designs occurred in production. He worked with another Winchester researcher. Another sign of an after factory rib were the numer of 30" Full field guns later ribbed either with Simmons or MoneyMaker ventilated ribs, but the top milled groove in the receiver was a dead-give-away as to that, and when the Model 12 ruled the ATA roost, I am sure many "newbies" bought those modified and restocked field guns and thought - "Wow- now I have a Model 12 Trap gun- look out Vandalia, here I come"--I have several post 1935 12 gauge Model 12 buttstocks and also 18 ring forearms in my "parts boxes, also older logo and non-logo repro 12 gauge black bakelite buttplates-the 16 and 20 and 28- all on the same size receiver, take the same stock configuration. SN is 167xx, all numbers do match. Exquisite Winchester Model 12, 20 gauge with Modified bore. I was glad to see this as I know for a fact that while many weren't done, they did indeed do some. It was John Olin who inspired Westerns revolutionary Super-Xshotshell in 1921. Duck guns always sold for a slight premium over the standard model. Model 42s with donut post ribs, no Simmons markings, proof marks in the right places, in the proper serial number range, are considered to have been made to completion in the Winchester factory. The price $379 does not seem out of line for model 12's in this area; however, my question is does the Simmons rib add or detract from the value of the gun? The help you need is to get a life. *** RARE *** Winchester Model 12 HEAVY DUCK GUN limited production run that combines the pre-64 Model 12 with a 12 ga. Magnum 30" barrel, factory production 3" Magnum, with a factory Simmons Vent Rib on an upgraded wood stock! Chamber marked 2 3/4", choke marked full, and 13 1/8" LOP. This product contains chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Winchester Model 12 12 ga 26" oal aftermarket poly choke and vent rib at the best online prices at eBay! custom bolt act. Winchester Model 12 Takedown Slide Action Shotgun with Simmons Ventilated RibProduced in 1961. It is at my engraver now. 1937 2pin vent rib offerd, all skeet grade guns offerd with solid or plain barrels. I have read the 3 different books I have on model 12's from cover to cover many times. A Cold War era classic with smooth lines, a legendary back story, and an exotic-sounding name, Beretta's Model 71 was definitely a mouse that roared. Madis comments Fancy walnut was considered too fancy for the rough treatment often given a duck gun. Fancy walnut could be ordered and the few pidgeon-grade duck guns had fancy walnut. The latest 2-pin rib gun researched has a serial number of 19114xx with a date of August 26th, 1960. Winchester Model 12 12 GA For Sale - GunAuction.com These ribs have Simmons markings. The steel has a nice patina and the stock has most of the lacquer worn off. Winchester Model 12 28 Gauge (W9229) Price: $3,250.00 Item Number: W9229 Previously sold Winchester Model 12 28 Gauge shotgun. M, ventilated rib, mid 1950's manufacture, completely original, only one ever produced by Winchester, ultimate rarity for the Model 12 co, 12ga, #1737096, standard gun that has been restocked and has a Simmons ventilated rib added, 12ga, 30 inch barrel, full choke, 2 3/4 inch chamber, 14 3/4 inch LOP with "Decelerator" pad, blu, Winchester Model 12 - 20ga - 26 - Improved Cylinder- NIB - UNFIRED - SN: MT0162 - AS NEW with high figured wood, Winchester Model 12 28 gauge Skeet solid rib. Condition: excellent bright bore, 98% blue overall thinn, Winchester Model 12. The receiver is heavier and so is the barrel. S/N 1,589,*** made in 1954. The earliest gun they found with a 2-pin rib has a serial number of 2037xx with a date of June 30th, 1919. I am tempted to stop off awhile and call. Many online gun sales actually take away from your local The number of pellet holes was divided by the average number of pellets in the load to produce the pattern percentage. Results and Discussion The paired pattern percentages fired by the two duck guns with each of the five loads were not significantly different, judging by the overlapping standard deviations. 98% original, WINCHESTER MODEL 25 PUMP SHOTGUN SOLID FRAME MODEL BARREL LENGTH 28" CHOKE MODIFIED. That is why I have never used one of my duck guns for duck hunting. I have a questionwhen a gun is described as having a "milled rib" I thought that referred to the fact that the barrel had posts that were milled as part of the barrel instead of being attachedI see guns described as having "round post milled ribs" I don't think that is correct? Ernie Simmons had a close relationship with Winchester & John Olin; if you find any NSSA ,ATA, Field & Stream and Sports Afield magazines pre-war and post war you'll find he sold plenty of Winchesters out of his gun shop and attended many shoots selling target guns. Charles Askins confirmed the tighter patterns and greater effective range in the field. Ab steadies the boat. The standard 12-gauge duck load in 1921 was a 2 3/4-inch shell holding 3 3/4-drams equivalent powder and 1 1/4-ounces of shot. Some will even go 85% to 90%, but rarely. Keith, who obtained Askins Ithaca 10 magnum double upon Askins death, achieved 93% patterns with two ounces of copper-plated#3 shot in the big double. It has a fiber optic front sight which is not origina, SOLD Ser no 1949422, Mfg 1962, 3-Pin Vent Rib, Full, 30" Barrel, Signed by M Dubber, Who I beleive was a colt engraver, 14 1/2" Lop to Winchester Red Vented Pad, Comes with case, Excel, Winchester Custom Model 12 20ga 2 3/4" 28" full choke barrel,Simmons vent rib,serial #683559,fancy French Walnut checkered stocks with great color and figure,jeweled bolt and lifter,ex, WINCHESTER MODEL 12 HEAVY DUCK 12GA 3" MAGNUM. BARREL 30" CHOKE FULL 90% FACTORY BLUE ORIGINAL FACTORY HEAVY DUCK RECOIL PAD WOOD VERY GOOD. It was manufactured in 1962 and is a skeet grade. Model 12, What is it? | Winchester Shotguns | Forum | Winchester Free Shipping, No Credit Card Fees. Winchester - Model 12 Factory Try-Gun, 12ga, 30" Barrel. See pi, Winchester Model 12, 28 gauge SKEET pump action shotgun, circa 1955. I believe the solid ribs were soft (lead) soldered like the model 21's. Winchester Model 12 12 GA For Sale Winchester 12 GA Model 12. And unlike our competitors, it extends beyond the buying process. Winchester Pre War Mod 12 Trap 2 Barrel Set 12ga, Winchester Pre 64 Mod 12 DU Illinios No.1 Engraved by M Dubber, WINCHESTER MODEL 12 HEAVY DUCK 12GA 3 INCH MAGNUM, Winchester Model 12 16 Gauge rare 2-barrel set, Used Browning BT99 Plus 12 gauge 28" bbl fixed choke mod good condition no box no manuals, WINCHESTER MODEL 12 16GA PUMP ACTION SHOTGUN, Winchester Mod 12 Vent Rib B-Carved Wood 12ga, "Winchester Model 12 Shotgun 12 Gauge (W12258), Winchester, Ducks Unlimited, Model 12, 12 Ga, Shotgun, Winchester Model 21 Heavy Duck, 12ga, 30" 3" mag, Briley Chokes, Winchester Model 12 12 ga. Deluxe Skeet grade w/ factory Cutts, Winchester Model 1912 Nickel Steel 20 gauge 24" VR bbl EARLY Serial #. Refresh your browser window to try again. Manufactured in 1959. It is the skeet style of stock with a comb drop of 1 1/2 2 1/2 inches, and a 14-inch length, butt to trigger. In an ad in the October 1952 American Rifleman, Winchester proclaimed. In the 1950's Winchester's costs were losing pace with what they were ablle to sell their products for. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's Winchester proof steel replaced nickel steel in the manufacture of all Winchester firearms in the early 1930s. In an ad in the October 1952 American Rifleman, Winchester proclaimed. Simmons also removed Solid Ribs from barrels and added his rib to those barrels. Winchester Model 12 Skeet Gun 12 gauge with 25" Solid Rib Barrel - 12 GA: 0 5d 7h 6m 17240921. 14" LOP OVER THE ORIGINAL W, Up for sale I have a 100% NIB Winchester model 12 chambered in 16ga. Winchester Model 12 with checkered forearm (slide handle) b'. to be finishedat least thats what Stadt says in his book"Winchester, Shotguns and Shotshells"very interesting book.a little different look at M-12 than Madis and Riffle.WC. In 1960, length of pull was increased to 13-3/4 inches on duck guns. This shotg, FOR SALE IS A VERY NICE VINTAGE WINCHESTER MODEL 12, 12GA GA SHOTGUN. Rangemasters are here to answer all your questions about our products or process. WINCHESTER MODEL 12 for sale - gunsinternational.com Title. Modified choke. These are rare, a line can be seen along the dounut post on both sides. Standard markings, with matching numbers on the receiver and barrel. The Duck Stamp Law of 1934 was enacted to provide funds for waterfowl propagation. It was Western that produced the 3 1/2-inch 10-gauge magnum with 2 ounces of shot in 1932. (no choke stamp on barrel). Metal parts of the Model 12 are machined from chrome-molybdenum, the toughest, longest wearing and finest gun steel known. Barrel lengths were 30 or 32 inches, but 32-inch barrels were discontinued in 1948. No Reserve. DAC 1 1/2"&n, FRO YOUR VIEWING IS A EXCEPTIONALY NICE MODEL 12 IN 3' HEAVY DUCK. The duck guns reputation was made with the one and five-eighths ounce load, the heaviest 12 magnum load from about 1935 to the mid-1950s. . L.O.P. According to my source your Model 12 Winchester was made in 1924, so it is 89 years old. As you know that, Winchester Model 12 (factory original) 28-gauge pump action shotgun. , The Winchester Model 12 Y series was introduced in 1972 and made until about 1984. Model 12 duck guns could be ordered in pidgeon grade, featuring fancy wood and meticulous fitting and finish of parts. Winchester model 12 26" vent rib poly choke barrel Featured Gun Classifieds Winchester Shotguns - Model 12, Winchester Model 12 - 20ga - 26 - Improved Cylinder- NIB - UNFIRED - SN: MT0162 - AS NEW with high figured wood - 2 3/4" Shells note: particles/dust can be seen in the photo, In very good condition. ONLY ONE EVER PRODUCED BY WINCHESTER, ULIMATE RARITY. You jack the shell out and it goes off under your nose. MAKE OFFER. 4 chilled shot.. Dolphin, I agree with you until the part where you imply that Model 12s were sent to Simmons for ribs and then sent back to Winchester to sell. Buckinghams tests led him to buy his own custom Super Fox, Bo Whoop. Bo Whoop patterned about 90% at 40 yards with specially bored barrels. That is true about Model 42s, but, as far as researchers know, it is not true about Model 12s. The slide handle was given a larger diameter, flat bottom and 14 grooves on each side of the handle about 1947. It also got a new action slide. I always wondered what the royalty was to Simmons on the Winchester Special Ventilated Rib that they installed. It is, somehow, not easy to avoid shoving shells wrong end first into ones gun. For more information: www.p65warnings.ca.gov. so recall pads helped and they offerd hydro coil-stocks. Built from 1912 to 1963. Winchester Pump Shotguns (2) - Collectors Firearms - Top Rated Plus - opens in a new window or tab, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab. The $48 price tag was right. Free shipping for many products! Will Winchester ever build the Model 12 again? His handload was a .heavy load of Herco powder and 2 ounces of shot, either 2s or 4s. From its debut until the end of the 1950's, the Winchester Model 1912 was the pump shotgun, long known as "the perfect repeater." Buy 1955 Winchester Model 12 20 GA Simmons Rib AA+ Wood: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pump Action Shotguns Shotguns Guns & Firearms All: 974012213. Johnson designed the Models 52 and 61 rimfire rifles and the Model 54 centerfire rifle. Both guns have 30-inch Full choke barrels inscribed FOR SUPER SPEED & SUPER-X 3 IN. The bores are bright with no pitting. Mar 24, 2023 Winchester Model 12 Shotgun $150 Mar 24, 2023 Two Winchester Pump Shotguns $150 Mar 24, 2023 L.C. Teal, mallard, widgeon and sprig [pintail] hover singly and in bunches overhead. Fanciers of long-range shotguns now had a 12-gauge repeater shooting a 10-gauge shot load. Experts can attest to the vast improvements they have found shooting with the Simmons Ventilated Rib. The 3-inch shell was chambered originally in the famous Super Fox long-range double. I hunker down and blaze away. McIntosh notes that the Super-X shotshell was a breakthrough to the modern age of shotgun ammunition. In a full-page ad in the September 1926 issue of the American Rifleman, Western claimed Killing power 15 to 20 yards beyond the effective range of ordinary loads.This was based on a documented reduction in stringing of the shot charge, from about 20 feet to about 4 feet, at 42 yards. Winchester installed Simmons ribs and Simmons-designed ventilated ribs for several years. Serial numbers match on barrel and receiver. Both guns averaged 80% or better patterns with all loads of #4 shot. It was a little rough so I am doing a restoration. I know of a gun shop in Idaho that can take about any model 42 and put on round post ribs or solid ribs that are just like factory original with the proof marks. We join Buckingham in his ducking skiff as he is poled through the bayou by Ab, his black guide. The Winchester Model 12 Heavy Duck Gun Proved Itself a Shooter restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum. Epic 22 Pocket Pistol: The Beretta 71 Jaguar. Everything functions as it should. Most annoying was the failure of the action-slide lock to function properly. Has 30" barrel choked Full. part of our network, we sell THEIR guns first whenever possible. It is in excellent condition with only light handing marks, Used Browning BT99 Plus 12 gauge 28" bbl fixed choke mod good condition no box no manuals Buyer pays shipping Millers Gun Center Located in New Castle, Delaware "Home of TAX, WINCHESTER MODEL 12 16GA PUMP ACTION SHOTGUN, 26" BBL, 2 3/4, POLY CHOKE, RIBLESS, EJECTORS, SINGLE TRIGGER, MEDIUM DARK FIGURED WALNUT, PISTOL GRIP, LOP 14 3/8, 1 1/2, 2 5/16, 7LBS 3OZ, 985 BLUE, Winchester. Beautiful grain pattern and very tight hand checkering on the stock . Buy Winchester model 12 26" vent rib poly choke barrel: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pump Action Shotguns Shotguns Guns & Firearms All: 973937149 . "Metal parts of the Model 12 are machined from chrome-molybdenum, the toughest, longest wearing and finest gun steel known." Barrel lengths were 30 or 32 inches, but 32-inch barrels were discontinued in 1948. Jack OConnor was there and sets the scene nicely in the Complete Book of Shooting. Smoothbore Winchester Model 61 Slide Action Rifle with Rib & Box Very Good example of a Model 12 26 inch poly choke with vent rib 12 ga. Other conditions: Phone 715-478-0404 within 48 hours to confirm payment, . Tommy, I would be interested in one of the guns you describe. Initially came a series of auto-loading rifles, including the rimfire Model 1903 and centerfire rifles, culminating with the Model 1910, chambered for the 401 WSL cartridge. Something went wrong. It has the long action slide handle. SAME RECEIVER AS MODEL 12 BUT MAD, Guns Listing ID: 640773MAKE - WINCHESTERMODEL - 12FINISH - BLUEDBARREL - 28\"CALIBER - 12 GAUGECAPACITY - N/AGRIPS - WOODCONDITION - VERY GOODFEATURES - HYDRACOIL STOCK & MODIFIED BARREL, Winchester Model 1912 Nickel Steel 20 gauge EARLY Serial # Up for sale is a used Winchester Model 1912 Nickel Steel 20 ga, 2 3/4" chamber, 24" VR barrel stamped full but reads IM on a bra, Winchester - Model 12 Factory Try-Gun, 12ga. SN 1231992 Up for sale is a very clean and unique Winchester Model 12 in Pigeon Grade. Winchester Model 12 Shotguns For Sale - GunAuction.com The used value of a WINCHESTER MODEL 12 shotgun has fallen ($310.78) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $447.25 . Checkered semi-fancy walnut pistol grip stock with extended forearm and a solid Winchester recoil pad. Rib Boat, Winchester Winchester Rifle Parts, 12 in Frame 12 in Wheel Electric Bikes, 12 Gauge Barrels, Youth Football Rib Protector . - Straight Sighting Plane - Floating Vent rib action - Extra Strong Silver soldered posts Gun Type Over/Under w/RBSingle Barrel w/RB Free Shipping, No Credit Card Fees. IMMEDIATELY its how business should be done. The Model 12 Duck Gun is a highly specialized tool for hunters who need to put a lot of shot on target at 60 yards or more. Not sure how many of you know this, but the rib has a serial number stamped on the underside of them with the same number stamped on the underside of the barrel. No Reserve. Alarm calls! Chamber marked 2 3/4", choke marked modified, and 14" LOP. An 80% pattern they felt should make it a real 60-yard outfit with No. I wish I had them back! A milled rib Model 12 is a milled rib Model 12, but the terminology is used a bit loosely. Like new with a mark on the top of th, Winchester Model 21 Heavy Duck, 12ga, 30" barrels, solid rib, 3" mag. The takedown joints are tight (See the instructions in Madis book if your Model 12 has a loose take-down joint). However, the Model 12 duck gun should still be an excellent long-range waterfowl shotgun with the right ammunition. I have owned a Pigeon grade model 12 trap Dounut vent rib, built late 1955, now that's an oddity, who would order a Pigeon Trap with a Dounut Rib (?) Learn how your comment data is processed. I recently acquired a 1921 gun. Buckingham had a solid 60-yard duck gun and was on his way to becoming a legend. This was a result of the Watrous report, which recommended that many of the slow-selling options be discontinued following the war. Winchester Model 12 16Ga Pump Shotgun 28" Excellent condition Made in 1939 Gun #: 903285649 Seller: JerArms GA Sales: 60 $872.00 Full Details More from this Seller 1 Image (s) Winston Churchill custom Winchester Model 12 Pigeon 20 gauge, gold relief, staggering wood, provenan. prior written consent of the Copyright holder. An offset proof mark will boost the value compared to an aftermarket rib.
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